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how's it going everybody how's it going

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we've got a pretty epic epic I know I

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always say that but this time I really

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mean it a really epic show coming up one

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of my favorite people period and for a

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variety of reasons well tonight we have

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Angela Thompson Smith PhD Angela

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operates mind wise consulting out of

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Boulder City Nevada now Angela was a

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staff member at pear from 1987 to 1992

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dr. Smith was employed as a research

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coordinator with the Bigelow Foundation

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in Las Vegas Nevada from 1992 to 1994

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prior to Bigelow chair in consciousness

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studies at the University of Nevada at

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Las Vegas and before the consciousness

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research laboratory at UNLV and before

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the National Institute for discovery

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Sciences in Las Vegas

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there was the Bigelow foundation the

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foundation carried out multiple projects

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including follow ups to the Bigelow

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experiences seminars on alternative

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health and collaborative research at

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UNLV sociological field research in Las

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Vegas

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central Nevada Alabama and other places

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research assistants to researchers such

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as Budd Hopkins in New York and a radio

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show area mm the forerunner of art bells

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coast to coast program area mm featured

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many experts from the fields of ufology

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alternative health alternative energy

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and parapsychology and ran through early

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in 1994 over the past 10 years angela

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has worked as a private contractor for

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individuals businesses and organizations

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around the United States and abroad dr.

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Smith was it ordained as a shamanic

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practitioner in 2010 following decades

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of training and experience dr. Smith was

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also trained in remote viewing by 2 X

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and Stargate remote viewers Paul Smith

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and Lynn Buchanan as she now works out

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of mind wise consulting at Boulder City

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Nevada and she specializes in research

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training and instruction definitely read

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her books they are by far some of the

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most intriguing intellectually I think

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intriguing books at least to me

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amazing amazing books I haven't read one

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that I wasn't just blown away by so

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let's please support angela thompson

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smith and without any further ado let's

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having tonight and that is one of the

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favorite people I have that I have met

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in my existence here on this planet and

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that's Angela Thompson Smith PhD she

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started out in social work she is a hero

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of the people she was a nurse she is a

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hero of health she's a researcher like

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none other she's given so much back to

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the community

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and anyway let's just get to it Angela

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Thompson Smith PhD Angela not bad not

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bad thanks so much for taking some time

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out of your day and and talking with us

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oh you're welcome that's great I'm I'm

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very excited about well I wanted to talk

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about some past projects and some future

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projects that you have among those

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tactical remote-viewing and what you

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could tell us what you could tell us

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about what's going on and yeah I'm

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always I'm always doing something yeah

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we'll be the latest book out of course

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as you mentioned is tactical remote

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viewing that was an account of working

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with a New York business client for nine

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years and all the work that not all the

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workers I couldn't post some of it

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because it was proprietary but some of

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the more interesting cases that we

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worked on and I helped him sell his

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business during the last recession 2000

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9 and the fact that we actually alerted

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him as remote viewers to the coming

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recession which he didn't believe at the

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time but he did as it went on it's

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that's interesting because a lot of the

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private sector it seems is more open to

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if not engaged in remote viewing in some

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way shape or form at some level having

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remote viewers on deck I've heard of a

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few corporations but there's also

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government projects it sounds like in

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the past that have also done this isn't

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this correct Angela um they they've been

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very cautious the business and there are

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more businesses now employing remote

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viewers either as freelance consultants

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or on the long term basis like I work

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with my client government and he tends

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to come in when is an emergency for

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example in the after 9/11 I was tasked

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by somebody who called himself Navy

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Frank and I never knew who he was but

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and all the feedback I got was that was

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helpful but it's not good so that's

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great it's it's it's it's just so your

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your knowledge and everything of remote

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viewing is so vast I have so many

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questions I want to hop on another one

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of your books that is one of my

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favorites is one that I believe Ingo

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Swann actually wrote the foreword remote

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perceptions right and I am currently

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just three publishing it it was out of

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publication for many years and I'm just

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republishing it is the Kindle version is

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up on Amazon and I should have the

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renewed paperback version app sometimes

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sweet oh great great yeah that is that

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such a neat book I think the targets are

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I I really that I think from it's kind

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of controversial but an experimental and

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I think that's what's so neat about you

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is that you have been involved in a lot

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of controversial and experimental

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projects I don't want to speak for you

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but I could you give us a little bit of

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insight into some of those wealthy the

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Princeton University the Princeton

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engineering anomalies research lab that

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human-computer interaction from a an

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intuitive psychic basis they were there

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and very few people knew about it the

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public was becoming more aware of the

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the team and the work there Robert

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Johnson Spencer Robert John who was

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professor of aerospace studies was the

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lead and bread had done was the office

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manager and said I worked there for five

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years and participated in many of the

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experiments and that has all been

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written up it's out there if you go to

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pare Inc EE AR I NC you should be able

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to find some of their reprints so that

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was the the major research that I took

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part in and there's always I never know

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what's coming across my debt I've done

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work for a physics lab I've done work

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for a NASA manager not officially for

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NASA but one of the managers so projects

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like that come across my desk and I'm

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always happy to participate

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mmm that is neat the the program wanted

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to it first of all if it's okay I'd like

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to read something out of your remote

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perceptions book that I thought was

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pretty interesting and if speculation

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that the CIA utilized RV information

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comes from an article by Douglas Waller

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five Waller wrote that the Defense

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Intelligence Agency recruits psychics

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who were creating accurate pictures of

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Soviet submarine construction hidden

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from us by satellites and a 1993

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psychics had correctly drawn 20 tunnels

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being built in North Korea and near the

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Demilitarized Zone and I think we run

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into this a lot there's been quite a few

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cases that at least I I'm not quite

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normal I like to do a lot of research

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when it comes to these things and

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there's quite a few cases Angela that

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you know where the government has

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utilized you know remote viewers to even

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if they have a plan to just kind of

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fine-tune certain portions of that plan

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isn't that correct

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they try and go for people who have a

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track record there are many I mean there

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are thousands of people now who have

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been trained in remote viewing many of

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them just to the basic level people like

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myself have gone on into operational

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work which has been my new forward

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thrust

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tend to get tasks from time to time

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unfortunately some of the more sensitive

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projects if I sign non-disclosure

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talk about them so I but I try and put

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as many projects as I can into my books

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and my books fear ste R contains

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projects for the last 30 years of remote

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viewing that I participated in that is

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great and that the just a reminder to

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our audience like the quality and the

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different I love the different types of

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books that you have there's another book

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Columbia quest which yeah yeah could you

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tell our listeners a little bit about

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that you know in my 20s when I was a lot

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younger I volunteered with a British

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organization to go down to Columbia

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America and I worked at an orphanage as

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a nurse social worker and but I didn't

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just do today I know hands-on day-to-day

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stuff the missionaries there would send

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me off or by bus up to Bogota because we

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were only in the foothills of the Andes

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and in baggage hoddan I get another bus

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out to the boondocks happen to the Andes

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to go pick up and collect birth

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certificates and other information about

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the children for adoptive parents so I

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never knew where I was going to be sent

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I never knew I had to find out which

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buses to take so I had lots of

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adventures while I was over the wells

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down there and finally found all my

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journals and letters home that my

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parents packed and then I got a disc of

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photos of one of the orphans who gone

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back to the orphanage and this spurred

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me to write about my adventures down

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there know that that's basically the

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book yes that is so neat and bringing me

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back to like just the amount and

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quantity of your work I recently had

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some really intriguing you know just a

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snippet of intriguing information sent

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to me by someone and I posted it and I

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immediately like when you said hey this

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is me I'm like oh well of course it is

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and it was so well written and it had to

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do with an animal mutilation studies and

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it was just so well written you know and

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that's what's so nice is like an

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open-minded

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like when it comes to your research

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which is you know good the absolutely

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the other thing I wanted to ask you

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about was if you could tell our audience

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I believe you're still do you still do

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classes and offer training I do I try

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and offer a one class a month a third

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weekend of each month and it's in

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applications remote viewing so I don't

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teach

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actually remote viewing except that

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controlled remotely and protocol but I

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bring new people and other trained

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people up to speed with the protocols

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over two days so that they have a

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working knowledge of what they're

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supposed to be doing and you yourself

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Ryan took Artemis so you know the third

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day we I picked an actual target for

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example we looked at the fire this last

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class we looked at the fire at in France

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you know the big Cathedral and Notre

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Dame and looking to see if it was a

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natural fire or was actually terrorist

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related and the students do three

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sessions and finally arriving at a team

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at a conclusion and we concluded it was

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accidental it was a fuse box so we're

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waiting now on feedback for that but yes

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I I teach here in Boulder City Nevada

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and you can always contact me to see of

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their places

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absolutely that is great the other thing

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I wanted to ask you is you recently did

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I believe a class with Paul Smith is

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that correct yeah I just thought that my

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trainer major Paul Smith all s H Smith

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was up in Cedar City Nevada he was one

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of the original military Stargate remote

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viewers for nine years and I thought

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very privileged to have been trained by

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him in remote viewing and every now and

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again he asked me to go up when he needs

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assistance so I just spent the last week

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assisting him with one of his basic

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classes and it's in it's like mental

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bootcamp classes my classes are tame

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compared to his because you write essays

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you have to do homework long hours

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actually all day just working and it was

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tremendous I I benefit from it because I

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get a little bit of course correct

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and I love being up in Cedar City so I

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just got back last night that's great

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Paul is a great guy

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dad is neat long and getting to there's

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there's it looks like some future I I

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don't know how much I can say or not but

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I believe there's some future possible

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television here yeah yeah I was invited

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out to LA a couple of months ago by the

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History Channel Prometheus Productions

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was doing some filming for them for a

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new it's a new series that's being

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hosted by William Shatner and it's

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called the unexplained mysteries of the

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mind and I think mine is the seventh

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segment it's going to be aired this on

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this coming Friday the 30th and it's

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it's mainly about my work the work of

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some other remote viewers the Nevada

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remote viewing group that I work with

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and mainly about the DJ murder mystery

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case that we worked on so that's going

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to be on on Friday evening the 30th on

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the hit on the History Channel

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that is exciting very exciting I'm

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nervous oh gosh it's I can't wait I

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can't wait to see it yeah no I'm sure

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they're going to do a wonderful job with

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it but I'm I still get nervous until

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it's actually aired absolutely

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absolutely

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the another interesting thing that I

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wanted to ask you about was the if I if

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it's okay if I read the animal

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mutilation study that I previously

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mentioned oh yeah okay yep that's the

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one in the fall of 1992 when we visited

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the Nevada Test Site someone in the

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group asked a question about what

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their cattle had been ranched at the

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test site during the nuclear tests we

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were told that there had been cattle at

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the test site in various parts of the

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animal were removed when they died

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the rest was barbecued we were told that

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there were no longer test cattle at the

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test site however multiple unusual

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cattle deaths called cattle mutilations

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had been occurring all over the country

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including the counties surrounding the

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test site

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it seemed that many of these unusual

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cattle deaths had occurred near military

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and government installations and you go

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on to mention a little bit where we go

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into some other things but I found that

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very interesting that there is a

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possible connection there yeah that was

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what I discovered I wrote about that in

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another an older book called diary of an

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abduction that's still available a

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second you know used copies on Amazon's

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I want I'm going to rewrite it this

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summer

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before but this was a tour that I did

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the trip that I did when I first started

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working and I came to Las Vegas I was

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working with Robert Bigelow and I got

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included in a group of university folks

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that were going up to the test site and

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it was eye-opening it was fantastic we

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were shown locations that weren't open

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to the general public

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we saw the pee tunnel it were way up the

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north of the test site just an amazing

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experience and I I took the opportunity

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to ask questions while I was there as I

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am I kind of nosy tip it and I wrote out

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a lot of I did it in internal form

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because I write my journals about

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interesting stuff and they end up

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usually in my book that's Fanta I like I

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like that and I'm glad I'm very glad

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that you mentioned Robert Bigelow in

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fact because that brings me to the next

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little snippet of writing having to do

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with the same at animal mutilation study

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and it goes on to say Robert Bigelow was

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adamant that

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the cattle mutilations were solely the

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result of extraterrestrial interference

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with the cattle he would not envisage

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any other explanation I preferred to

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keep an open mind his argument was that

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we had no technology that could account

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for the cauterize cuts and open wounds

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on these animals or if we did could it

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would be too heavy to carry out into the

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field since then I have seen devices in

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engineering magazines regarding portable

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medical technologies for example philips

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laboratories located at Kirkland Air

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Force Base in New Mexico had developed a

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device called the med pen and it goes on

448
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- like an agricultural website and how

449
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it's described but it's fascinating that

450
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some of these things that we considered

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science fiction in not that long ago are

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possible now and it's you know that it's

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getting more difficult I I believe that

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there is very real phenomena taking

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place and you know in our skies etc on

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the ground and however it is becoming

457
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more and more difficult to discern that

458
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from actual technology yeah yeah yes I

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would like to keep an open mind on the

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sources of things and when you think

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that I wrote that back in 2001 imagine

462
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what has been a advance since then it's

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just mind-blowing

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absolutely yeah yeah so fast I was also

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I was also sent out by Robert Bigelow to

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spike Alabama because they were having a

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huge amount of cattle mutilations taking

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place this was like around 90 to 93 and

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I spoke to I went and interviewed a

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whole bunch of people because Bigelow

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was interested in you know what was

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going on here and wrote up a report for

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him but I found a lot of similarities in

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the sights that mutilations were taking

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place you know

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sometimes you know more often near a

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military installation although they're

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all over the place the location the

479
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ground surface that no chalky and Flint

480
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and so there were lots of correlations

481
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and all that in Diary of an abduction

482
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well we need a particular project and I

483
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hope it's okay if I ask you about it

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00:24:36,620 --> 00:24:33,180
it's has to do with a female pilot are

485
00:24:39,590 --> 00:24:36,630
you free to discuss that one Angela the

486
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female pilot I'm not sure and give me a

487
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little bit more yes see there was a it

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was around wartime and she let's see I

489
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don't know I I believe there was some

490
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something and I could be wrong that it

491
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came out on the History Channel

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something that validated a previous

493
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:10,920
remote view that you had tasked yourself

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to do but I don't know I need to go back

495
00:25:22,940 --> 00:25:20,280
and remind myself that there's so many

496
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cases right right but I was fascinated

497
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with your validation yes there is there

498
00:25:33,980 --> 00:25:31,590
may be a product yes yes yeah oh it's of

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course and I can I talk a little bit

500
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about that absolutely they are that's

501
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exactly that's my daughter that's my

502
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daughter's name so I you can talk about

503
00:25:44,300 --> 00:25:42,540
it very hard yeah it's a very

504
00:25:44,810 --> 00:25:44,310
interesting case it's a very interesting

505
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case

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00:25:50,020 --> 00:25:48,090
yeah well I was tasked by on two

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different occasions by two different

508
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professionals on what happened to Amelia

509
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where did she end up and what about her

510
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copilot Fred Noonan and their plane the

511
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Electra big mystery there and the first

512
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:09,400
remote viewing I did I saw them

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landing on an atoll and because not

514
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because they ran out of fuel but they

515
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needed a better communication point for

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their radio and and then they were

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picked up by the Japanese and taken by a

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small boat out to a larger belt and then

519
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taken to another larger Island where

520
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they were in prison and at the time I

521
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was told no that's complete nonsense

522
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that's not true it can't be true

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so it was put on hold for a while and

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then when I was tasked again I gave I

525
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found the same information and I gave

526
00:26:55,650 --> 00:26:53,620
another group that I worked with the

527
00:26:59,120 --> 00:26:55,660
Nevada remote viewing group the same

528
00:27:03,299 --> 00:26:59,130
project and they found similar and more

529
00:27:06,450 --> 00:27:03,309
information which I presented it one of

530
00:27:09,060 --> 00:27:06,460
our r.v conferences and again people

531
00:27:12,270 --> 00:27:09,070
were saying no that can't be can't be

532
00:27:15,750 --> 00:27:12,280
true because the even though the

533
00:27:18,630 --> 00:27:15,760
Japanese were in the area it was thought

534
00:27:22,230 --> 00:27:18,640
that her plane Amelia's plane had gone

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00:27:27,210 --> 00:27:22,240
down and sunk and Amelia and thread had

536
00:27:30,930 --> 00:27:27,220
done so recently in a History Channel

537
00:27:33,630 --> 00:27:30,940
documentary a group went out they first

538
00:27:36,150 --> 00:27:33,640
of all they went to the archives the

539
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:36,160
National Archives in Washington DC and

540
00:27:43,290 --> 00:27:40,330
found documentation that amelia was a

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00:27:45,270 --> 00:27:43,300
prisoner she was a prisoner on Saipan

542
00:27:48,870 --> 00:27:45,280
Island she was a prisoner of the

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Japanese and they're actually still

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00:27:55,049 --> 00:27:52,360
looking for the or remains of the claim

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00:27:59,460 --> 00:27:55,059
and they thought was that she had died

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there on Saipan so and there was so much

547
00:28:04,980 --> 00:28:02,590
in the documentary that validated all of

548
00:28:09,750 --> 00:28:04,990
our remote viewing data that it was very

549
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:09,760
gratifying mm-hmm I I think that's such

550
00:28:16,290 --> 00:28:14,770
an amazing case just such an amazing was

551
00:28:18,570 --> 00:28:16,300
telling you that you were wrong you

552
00:28:20,049 --> 00:28:18,580
stuck to your guns and ended up being

553
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:20,059
right and

554
00:28:28,719 --> 00:28:25,369
yeah really meat yes I don't mind being

555
00:28:31,629 --> 00:28:28,729
right if I'm wrong I'm wrong but I felt

556
00:28:36,700 --> 00:28:31,639
strongly about the data and just kept it

557
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:36,710
you know until we got feedback it's

558
00:28:39,580 --> 00:28:37,369
fascinating

559
00:28:43,209 --> 00:28:39,590
I've wanted to also ask you Angela about

560
00:28:47,619 --> 00:28:43,219
a couple of kind of more mainstream I

561
00:28:51,159 --> 00:28:47,629
guess topics kind of sort of having to

562
00:28:54,009 --> 00:28:51,169
do with more fringe like topics such as

563
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:54,019
the social and political impact of like

564
00:28:57,609 --> 00:28:56,330
the to the stars Academy and and the

565
00:29:00,310 --> 00:28:57,619
work that they're doing and what you

566
00:29:03,940 --> 00:29:00,320
what what you know and about that or

567
00:29:06,099 --> 00:29:03,950
what you think about that well I know as

568
00:29:08,829 --> 00:29:06,109
much as the average person except I know

569
00:29:13,979 --> 00:29:08,839
some of the folks who are in it such as

570
00:29:16,810 --> 00:29:13,989
alpha dog and I've been following along

571
00:29:20,969 --> 00:29:16,820
hoping you know that this is and having

572
00:29:23,879 --> 00:29:20,979
high expectations of the of the project

573
00:29:27,789 --> 00:29:23,889
how cut off was one of the main

574
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:27,799
characters in this new venture I've

575
00:29:31,419 --> 00:29:29,210
known him since

576
00:29:35,409 --> 00:29:31,429
Princeton days when I was working there

577
00:29:37,959 --> 00:29:35,419
which was in the late 1980s and I

578
00:29:42,129 --> 00:29:37,969
consider him one of the most trustworthy

579
00:29:43,409 --> 00:29:42,139
and honest people that I've ever come

580
00:29:46,089 --> 00:29:43,419
across

581
00:29:48,700 --> 00:29:46,099
he still he's in his eighties now he's

582
00:29:52,659 --> 00:29:48,710
still working full time in fact we had a

583
00:29:54,879 --> 00:29:52,669
video podcast with em when I was up in

584
00:29:58,299 --> 00:29:54,889
Sidious Cedar City he always talks to

585
00:30:01,529 --> 00:29:58,309
the students over Skype and so it was

586
00:30:04,269 --> 00:30:01,539
really nice to be in touch with him so I

587
00:30:07,389 --> 00:30:04,279
don't know many of the other characters

588
00:30:10,749 --> 00:30:07,399
that are involved but because how is

589
00:30:17,289 --> 00:30:10,759
involved I I feel that gives it some

590
00:30:18,039 --> 00:30:17,299
validation mm-hmm yeah that I can I can

591
00:30:23,849 --> 00:30:18,049
agree with you there

592
00:30:26,829 --> 00:30:23,859
no no question that he is he is no joke

593
00:30:29,019 --> 00:30:26,839
another topic that I wanted to ask you

594
00:30:30,969 --> 00:30:29,029
about is kind of close to home not

595
00:30:33,300 --> 00:30:30,979
really it's kind of our backyard I guess

596
00:30:35,190 --> 00:30:33,310
Angela the yeah

597
00:30:38,190 --> 00:30:35,200
Lincoln County here is planning an

598
00:30:42,030 --> 00:30:38,200
emergency declaration about this storm

599
00:30:45,330 --> 00:30:42,040
area 51 event and I just want to get

600
00:30:46,980 --> 00:30:45,340
your opinion of this wild event and I

601
00:30:51,390 --> 00:30:46,990
just can't believe how much steam it's

602
00:30:54,870 --> 00:30:51,400
gathered I know I've been following it

603
00:30:57,300 --> 00:30:54,880
and how it just started off as a joke

604
00:30:59,550 --> 00:30:57,310
actually a young young man making a joke

605
00:31:04,890 --> 00:30:59,560
on one of these groups and it gained

606
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:04,900
momentum and I am hoping they'll turn it

607
00:31:12,090 --> 00:31:09,850
into a positive effort and I think there

608
00:31:15,060 --> 00:31:12,100
will be a lot of people going up there I

609
00:31:16,460 --> 00:31:15,070
hope they don't try and storm area 51

610
00:31:22,700 --> 00:31:16,470
because they're going to be some

611
00:31:27,900 --> 00:31:22,710
injuries I don't you know they are well

612
00:31:31,220 --> 00:31:27,910
well protected and as evidenced by the

613
00:31:35,250 --> 00:31:31,230
signposts that are out there and the

614
00:31:38,670 --> 00:31:35,260
security but I think it draws attention

615
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:38,680
to the point that there is so much

616
00:31:45,330 --> 00:31:41,010
secrecy and perhaps a lot of unnecessary

617
00:31:49,860 --> 00:31:45,340
secrecy and there could be a greater

618
00:31:52,050 --> 00:31:49,870
amount of disclosure and then efforts

619
00:31:54,540 --> 00:31:52,060
like this wouldn't be necessary because

620
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:54,550
it would be I know not everything has to

621
00:32:00,600 --> 00:31:57,610
be disclosed but it's time I think that

622
00:32:04,230 --> 00:32:00,610
there's what there is a more measured

623
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:04,240
disclosure to the public so that people

624
00:32:12,570 --> 00:32:06,970
don't know they have to storm area 51 to

625
00:32:17,630 --> 00:32:12,580
get information that's right and you're

626
00:32:22,740 --> 00:32:17,640
you're absolutely right I think Jeremy

627
00:32:25,650 --> 00:32:22,750
Korbel is actually doing some important

628
00:32:27,990 --> 00:32:25,660
and pretty timely stuff involving this

629
00:32:31,740 --> 00:32:28,000
storm area 51 movement and he's

630
00:32:36,780 --> 00:32:31,750
basically trying to on the lowdown he's

631
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:36,790
just trying to steer them clear of any

632
00:32:45,290 --> 00:32:42,370
sort of that happening and he's I think

633
00:32:47,210 --> 00:32:45,300
doing a very very noble thing and

634
00:32:50,869 --> 00:32:47,220
turning it into

635
00:32:55,229 --> 00:32:50,879
kind of a get-together more off-site

636
00:32:58,710 --> 00:32:55,239
where he's going to have bob lazar and

637
00:33:02,340 --> 00:32:58,720
show his area 51 in flying saucers movie

638
00:33:06,149 --> 00:33:02,350
and yeah I you know that I see that as

639
00:33:09,539 --> 00:33:06,159
more positive and I think kudos to him

640
00:33:10,919 --> 00:33:09,549
for that yes I've heard that that

641
00:33:14,479 --> 00:33:10,929
they're going to make it into almost

642
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:14,489
like a Woodstock kind of event right

643
00:33:22,799 --> 00:33:18,850
yeah yeah because I hope yes no yes

644
00:33:24,629 --> 00:33:22,809
please go ahead I'm what I'm hoping and

645
00:33:26,669 --> 00:33:24,639
what I hope they plan during that

646
00:33:29,399 --> 00:33:26,679
weekend is that they shut all the

647
00:33:32,279 --> 00:33:29,409
programs down at area 51 send all the

648
00:33:36,539 --> 00:33:32,289
personnel home double up on security and

649
00:33:38,909 --> 00:33:36,549
right out the storm in it yeah it's

650
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:38,919
gonna cost a lot of taxpayer money

651
00:33:45,659 --> 00:33:41,850
unfortunately yeah yeah unfortunately

652
00:33:48,269 --> 00:33:45,669
but things like this happen and you have

653
00:33:53,310 --> 00:33:48,279
to deal with them in the most positive

654
00:33:55,499 --> 00:33:53,320
way possible that's the truth it's it's

655
00:33:57,659 --> 00:33:55,509
very neat i think george knapp is also

656
00:34:02,039 --> 00:33:57,669
going to be there and if i'm not

657
00:34:05,999 --> 00:34:02,049
mistaken and okay yeah yeah very

658
00:34:07,950 --> 00:34:06,009
positive and memorable event as long as

659
00:34:09,629 --> 00:34:07,960
some foolhardy people don't get hurt

660
00:34:14,220 --> 00:34:09,639
that's what I'm worried about

661
00:34:19,230 --> 00:34:14,230
yep exactly I guess another thing I

662
00:34:22,879 --> 00:34:19,240
wanted to ask you about is is there the

663
00:34:25,730 --> 00:34:22,889
the unexplained is is it going to be a

664
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:25,740
you said Friday it's coming up Friday

665
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:28,450
yeah it's airing Friday what was the

666
00:34:34,799 --> 00:34:32,290
channel again History Channel just

667
00:34:38,879 --> 00:34:34,809
recalled the unexplained mysteries of

668
00:34:43,829 --> 00:34:38,889
the nine mysteries of the mind that is

669
00:34:46,409 --> 00:34:43,839
great I wanted to ask you you this is I

670
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:46,419
this is more personal stuff than saw he

671
00:34:51,359 --> 00:34:48,010
wrote not okay with it I completely

672
00:34:53,879 --> 00:34:51,369
understand but you are someone who knew

673
00:34:59,660 --> 00:34:53,889
Ingo Swann in a way that most people

674
00:35:00,870 --> 00:34:59,670
will never have the opportunity and yeah

675
00:35:03,180 --> 00:35:00,880
what could

676
00:35:08,749 --> 00:35:03,190
you tell us about you know ingo because

677
00:35:12,990 --> 00:35:08,759
it's just he's such a legendary figure

678
00:35:14,940 --> 00:35:13,000
yeah yeah um he's termed the father's

679
00:35:17,660 --> 00:35:14,950
remote-viewing but actually he didn't

680
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:17,670
like that title he's passed away now

681
00:35:24,779 --> 00:35:20,890
that he read just when I asked him one

682
00:35:26,460 --> 00:35:24,789
time he said no I was just the right

683
00:35:31,710 --> 00:35:26,470
person in the right place at the right

684
00:35:35,029 --> 00:35:31,720
time and I got to know him because when

685
00:35:37,769 --> 00:35:35,039
I was writing remote perceptions I

686
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:37,779
thought hey you know he's in Manhattan

687
00:35:43,589 --> 00:35:40,450
I'm in New Jersey I wonder if he would

688
00:35:46,740 --> 00:35:43,599
write the foreword for my book so I sent

689
00:35:49,410 --> 00:35:46,750
him a preview and which he read and he

690
00:35:51,329 --> 00:35:49,420
liked and he said yeah sure why don't

691
00:35:54,349 --> 00:35:51,339
you come up to Manhattan where I dinner

692
00:35:56,309 --> 00:35:54,359
and we can talk about the book and

693
00:35:58,349 --> 00:35:56,319
because he wanted to meet me in person

694
00:36:02,730 --> 00:35:58,359
to make sure I wasn't some crazy person

695
00:36:05,999 --> 00:36:02,740
tonight and which I did and after that

696
00:36:09,299 --> 00:36:06,009
we had a friend an on-and-off friendship

697
00:36:11,700 --> 00:36:09,309
that if I was in New Jersey or Manhattan

698
00:36:14,339 --> 00:36:11,710
I could call him up and say hey and go

699
00:36:17,130 --> 00:36:14,349
can I come over and visit you'd say sure

700
00:36:21,180 --> 00:36:17,140
one over he lived in the Bowery at the

701
00:36:25,079 --> 00:36:21,190
time in Manhattan and I would go over

702
00:36:26,910 --> 00:36:25,089
and he would pull out Tom picture target

703
00:36:28,980 --> 00:36:26,920
sessions as he had done with that

704
00:36:31,799 --> 00:36:28,990
student some of the military guys

705
00:36:36,180 --> 00:36:31,809
nothing classified he'd pull out his

706
00:36:40,380 --> 00:36:36,190
books his theories his sketches models

707
00:36:44,099 --> 00:36:40,390
and he would say I thought I I thought

708
00:36:47,970 --> 00:36:44,109
you might like to see this yeah so I had

709
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:47,980
almost an unofficial not a training as

710
00:36:52,319 --> 00:36:50,170
such but definitely an introduction to

711
00:36:57,359 --> 00:36:52,329
remote viewing even before I did my

712
00:37:03,329 --> 00:36:57,369
training with both men wow that is such

713
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:03,339
a neat experience - yeah and he was a

714
00:37:10,140 --> 00:37:06,130
bit bit of a curmudgeon mm-hmm you know

715
00:37:13,589 --> 00:37:10,150
didn't suffer fools gladly but I got on

716
00:37:14,339 --> 00:37:13,599
really well with them that is just so

717
00:37:17,759 --> 00:37:14,349
neat

718
00:37:18,329 --> 00:37:17,769
I wanted to ask you also about all of

719
00:37:21,809 --> 00:37:18,339
this

720
00:37:26,249 --> 00:37:21,819
I guess alien disclosure in the media

721
00:37:30,299 --> 00:37:26,259
that we see lately everything from you

722
00:37:33,660 --> 00:37:30,309
know a tip the to the starts Academy to

723
00:37:35,969 --> 00:37:33,670
just in general our television stations

724
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:35,979
and you know the History Channel the

725
00:37:43,559 --> 00:37:38,890
ancient aliens the it seems every

726
00:37:46,289 --> 00:37:43,569
channel has at least one and what what

727
00:37:49,079 --> 00:37:46,299
are your thoughts on this is alien

728
00:37:52,650 --> 00:37:49,089
disclosure eminent or is this something

729
00:37:55,650 --> 00:37:52,660
else we're seeing what two things

730
00:37:57,779 --> 00:37:55,660
actually one is that out of all of that

731
00:38:01,039 --> 00:37:57,789
material there are always nuggets of

732
00:38:04,620 --> 00:38:01,049
truth and you just have to be

733
00:38:07,829 --> 00:38:04,630
discriminating and sift it through the

734
00:38:10,439 --> 00:38:07,839
reality hopper and see what falls out

735
00:38:15,979 --> 00:38:10,449
because there is a lot of fluff as well

736
00:38:19,469 --> 00:38:15,989
that goes on and a lot of not actually

737
00:38:22,170 --> 00:38:19,479
made up but as I'm sure a lot of people

738
00:38:25,620 --> 00:38:22,180
really believe what they're saying but

739
00:38:28,039 --> 00:38:25,630
it's not always 100% accurate but

740
00:38:30,299 --> 00:38:28,049
there's nuggets of truth in there and

741
00:38:34,349 --> 00:38:30,309
what I like to do is to gather up the

742
00:38:35,059 --> 00:38:34,359
nuggets of truth and she see what passes

743
00:38:38,309 --> 00:38:35,069
the test

744
00:38:41,189 --> 00:38:38,319
now my co-author I wrote another book

745
00:38:45,420 --> 00:38:41,199
for voices from the cosmos and my toe

746
00:38:48,059 --> 00:38:45,430
officer C B Scott Jones he's been in

747
00:38:50,549 --> 00:38:48,069
this field for he's in his nineties now

748
00:38:53,039 --> 00:38:50,559
so he was in this field for about fifty

749
00:38:58,229 --> 00:38:53,049
or sixty years behind the scenes he's

750
00:39:00,839 --> 00:38:58,239
not a well-known name that he said we

751
00:39:03,410 --> 00:39:00,849
don't need disclosure because disclosure

752
00:39:07,170 --> 00:39:03,420
has already happened what we need now is

753
00:39:10,650 --> 00:39:07,180
confirmation of disclosure so I thought

754
00:39:15,199 --> 00:39:10,660
that was an intriguing concept that is

755
00:39:21,479 --> 00:39:15,209
that's a very neat way to think of it

756
00:39:28,380 --> 00:39:21,489
yeah I also wanted to ask you about this

757
00:39:31,140 --> 00:39:28,390
I was fascinated and not not to give

758
00:39:33,599 --> 00:39:31,150
give out secrets about your courses or

759
00:39:36,929 --> 00:39:33,609
anything of that nature but I was

760
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:36,939
fascinated at how accurate sometimes if

761
00:39:44,729 --> 00:39:39,729
you can just empty your mind some of

762
00:39:46,769 --> 00:39:44,739
this repetitive this tasking can what

763
00:39:51,539 --> 00:39:46,779
can take place when when you do it

764
00:39:57,059 --> 00:39:51,549
correctly and I remember that there were

765
00:39:57,809 --> 00:39:57,069
some targets that I didn't believe for a

766
00:40:04,469 --> 00:39:57,819
minute

767
00:40:11,189 --> 00:40:04,479
I could actually you know hone in on

768
00:40:17,069 --> 00:40:11,199
that and and I since since then I wish I

769
00:40:19,439 --> 00:40:17,079
wouldn't have doubted and of the targets

770
00:40:21,299 --> 00:40:19,449
that you've been tasked which can you

771
00:40:29,189 --> 00:40:21,309
speak of that you would say were the

772
00:40:32,339 --> 00:40:29,199
most rewarding or fascinating the major

773
00:40:34,819 --> 00:40:32,349
one was the one I'm going to be talking

774
00:40:40,650 --> 00:40:34,829
about the History Channel which was the

775
00:40:43,469 --> 00:40:40,660
Denver DJ murder case and I was tasked

776
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:43,479
by a colleague who hadn't heard from a

777
00:40:50,459 --> 00:40:48,130
friend of his for over a month so I did

778
00:40:52,499 --> 00:40:50,469
my remote viewing just from a coordinate

779
00:40:56,099 --> 00:40:52,509
I didn't know it was his friend at first

780
00:40:58,469 --> 00:40:56,109
the only thing I got was like a serial

781
00:41:01,979 --> 00:40:58,479
number it's a case number it's called a

782
00:41:04,589 --> 00:41:01,989
coordinate and series of letters and

783
00:41:08,729 --> 00:41:04,599
numbers that is the address of the

784
00:41:12,509 --> 00:41:08,739
target which I sat down and did a remote

785
00:41:15,299 --> 00:41:12,519
viewing session God information sent it

786
00:41:16,829 --> 00:41:15,309
off to my colleague and he wrote back

787
00:41:19,469 --> 00:41:16,839
and said no this is a friend of mine

788
00:41:21,269 --> 00:41:19,479
he's missing for a month he can't

789
00:41:23,989 --> 00:41:21,279
possibly be in the water he can't

790
00:41:28,620 --> 00:41:23,999
possibly be dead

791
00:41:31,439 --> 00:41:28,630
etc etc so I said well look let me talk

792
00:41:33,620 --> 00:41:31,449
a few more of the Nevada remote viewing

793
00:41:36,390 --> 00:41:33,630
group that you have to remote viewers

794
00:41:38,309 --> 00:41:36,400
and see what they come back with and

795
00:41:40,620 --> 00:41:38,319
they came back with corroborating

796
00:41:43,980 --> 00:41:40,630
evidence that in

797
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:43,990
there has been a murder and a lot of

798
00:41:52,170 --> 00:41:49,090
additional information when my colleague

799
00:41:54,390 --> 00:41:52,180
was out in LA they saw on TV about a

800
00:42:00,330 --> 00:41:54,400
body being dredged up off of Catalina

801
00:42:02,700 --> 00:42:00,340
Island and he said that's what the

802
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:02,710
remote viewers have told us that must

803
00:42:09,260 --> 00:42:05,010
being I'm not going to mention names but

804
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:09,270
that's my colleague and he called the

805
00:42:16,350 --> 00:42:13,570
the Lake coroner's office they suspected

806
00:42:18,300 --> 00:42:16,360
him at first but he got some people to

807
00:42:21,540 --> 00:42:18,310
vouch for him that he wasn't the

808
00:42:26,670 --> 00:42:21,550
murderer and then he was able to give

809
00:42:29,940 --> 00:42:26,680
them the identity of the Denver DJ which

810
00:42:32,370 --> 00:42:29,950
was you know very fortunate at the way

811
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:32,380
see he would have been a John Doe for

812
00:42:40,020 --> 00:42:36,850
for a long time we were also tasked on

813
00:42:43,380 --> 00:42:40,030
the murderer to give a profile of a

814
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:43,390
remote wound profile of his after he was

815
00:42:51,780 --> 00:42:47,890
and then when the they felt that he had

816
00:42:54,540 --> 00:42:51,790
disappeared I was tasked with how to go

817
00:42:59,310 --> 00:42:54,550
and look at where where did he go

818
00:43:01,740 --> 00:42:59,320
so I saw a landmass that resembled I was

819
00:43:06,690 --> 00:43:01,750
told for toda Island which was where

820
00:43:09,180 --> 00:43:06,700
this murderer had offshore banking he

821
00:43:11,810 --> 00:43:09,190
was eventually caught partly through

822
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:11,820
what we had said partly through just

823
00:43:18,030 --> 00:43:15,370
general people you know looking for him

824
00:43:21,540 --> 00:43:18,040
and finding him and he was sentenced

825
00:43:26,490 --> 00:43:21,550
he's now in prison and for many many

826
00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:26,500
years so that would for me was one of

827
00:43:32,780 --> 00:43:30,250
the clearest straightforward data after

828
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:32,790
data after data that was correct and

829
00:43:39,330 --> 00:43:36,130
they actually helped solve the murder

830
00:43:43,140 --> 00:43:39,340
case and when it I just add this at the

831
00:43:46,350 --> 00:43:43,150
end the last [\h__\h] son actually wrote

832
00:43:50,340 --> 00:43:46,360
out the case and came in interviewed me

833
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:50,350
and then they got two of the LA

834
00:43:56,329 --> 00:43:53,970
Sheriff's to write little blurb

835
00:44:00,069 --> 00:43:56,339
they interviewed them about how remote

836
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:05,960
amazing and yeah with remote viewing

837
00:44:11,420 --> 00:44:08,690
this happens occasionally that's a

838
00:44:13,420 --> 00:44:11,430
oftentimes you know this this this

839
00:44:15,559 --> 00:44:13,430
happens often times in in like

840
00:44:18,410 --> 00:44:15,569
missing-persons cases and things of that

841
00:44:20,059 --> 00:44:18,420
nature and then in other cases you know

842
00:44:22,250 --> 00:44:20,069
remote viewers will come up with things

843
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:22,260
that sound outlandish like underground

844
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:26,010
bases and people laugh and when you look

845
00:44:30,890 --> 00:44:28,170
into some of these things that you know

846
00:44:32,089 --> 00:44:30,900
some of these targets and just so our

847
00:44:34,849 --> 00:44:32,099
listeners understand some of these

848
00:44:39,650 --> 00:44:34,859
targets are very difficult targets

849
00:44:41,180 --> 00:44:39,660
because they're well they're they could

850
00:44:44,870 --> 00:44:41,190
even be protected by other remote

851
00:44:49,059 --> 00:44:44,880
viewers if if someone were to go that

852
00:44:51,260 --> 00:44:49,069
far and you know among those have you

853
00:44:55,190 --> 00:44:51,270
were there any targets that you ever

854
00:44:59,450 --> 00:44:55,200
found very difficult to access and or um

855
00:45:02,089 --> 00:44:59,460
I found that not usually um but there

856
00:45:05,150 --> 00:45:02,099
were a couple of cases a standout one of

857
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:05,160
them was the as I mentioned I was passed

858
00:45:12,410 --> 00:45:08,970
after 9/11 by Navy friend and when I was

859
00:45:15,230 --> 00:45:12,420
doing that session there was the strong

860
00:45:17,270 --> 00:45:15,240
possibility that either other remote

861
00:45:21,250 --> 00:45:17,280
viewers or other people knowledgeable

862
00:45:24,380 --> 00:45:21,260
about the ability were perhaps

863
00:45:27,050 --> 00:45:24,390
monitoring and because I was doing these

864
00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:27,060
solo and as I was going through my

865
00:45:32,750 --> 00:45:29,250
session I just think we heard a male

866
00:45:37,250 --> 00:45:32,760
voice say [\h__\h] which is a derogatory

867
00:45:38,900 --> 00:45:37,260
term for a feeble-minded person but I I

868
00:45:41,630 --> 00:45:38,910
wrote it down and I just said to the

869
00:45:44,750 --> 00:45:41,640
side and then it was a further down in

870
00:45:47,870 --> 00:45:44,760
the session there were other derogatory

871
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:47,880
terms that came through now those aren't

872
00:45:54,260 --> 00:45:51,210
the kind of date of words that I

873
00:45:58,010 --> 00:45:54,270
normally use but and but they definitely

874
00:46:01,160 --> 00:45:58,020
came through in the session and they

875
00:46:03,859 --> 00:46:01,170
intruded so I assumed that there was

876
00:46:05,569 --> 00:46:03,869
some other as I was accessing what we

877
00:46:07,620 --> 00:46:05,579
call the signal line there were

878
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:07,630
intrusions

879
00:46:17,970 --> 00:46:14,650
mm-hmm and those that that is so

880
00:46:19,380 --> 00:46:17,980
interesting because those are for some

881
00:46:22,590 --> 00:46:19,390
listeners that aren't aware those are

882
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:22,600
those are sometimes protection systems

883
00:46:27,900 --> 00:46:25,690
or for restricted areas or for you know

884
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:27,910
at least in theory I've heard people

885
00:46:30,870 --> 00:46:28,930
speak of

886
00:46:34,050 --> 00:46:30,880
oh it's difficult to Remote View for

887
00:46:37,700 --> 00:46:34,060
example the White House or area 51 or

888
00:46:42,060 --> 00:46:37,710
things that make sense like that and

889
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:42,070
yeah so it's it's sometimes I think it's

890
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:44,410
possible but I think anything can be

891
00:46:51,240 --> 00:46:49,330
remote viewed by a remote viewer with a

892
00:46:54,540 --> 00:46:51,250
good natural ability who's been well

893
00:46:58,580 --> 00:46:54,550
trained and practiced that they find it

894
00:47:02,670 --> 00:46:58,590
easier to get access to those locations

895
00:47:09,690 --> 00:47:02,680
mm-hmm and I wanted to ask you a little

896
00:47:12,540 --> 00:47:09,700
bit about the if you know and we a thing

897
00:47:14,610 --> 00:47:12,550
of kind of interest lately among some

898
00:47:19,550 --> 00:47:14,620
people in the remote viewing community

899
00:47:24,630 --> 00:47:19,560
is how much the Soviets and then now

900
00:47:27,060 --> 00:47:24,640
those who are remote viewing for other

901
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:27,070
purposes and that it's it's taken a lot

902
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:28,930
more seriously in other parts of the

903
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:32,410
world for whatever reason than it is in

904
00:47:36,390 --> 00:47:34,810
the United States do you know any

905
00:47:40,730 --> 00:47:36,400
information about that or why it might

906
00:47:47,240 --> 00:47:43,680
absolutely in Russia right from the very

907
00:47:50,340 --> 00:47:47,250
beginning even though the Americans

908
00:47:55,530 --> 00:47:50,350
American authorities were very skeptical

909
00:47:58,050 --> 00:47:55,540
about remote viewing the Russians have

910
00:48:02,610 --> 00:47:58,060
treated it all along as a very viable

911
00:48:06,030 --> 00:48:02,620
skill a very useful skill to train in

912
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:06,040
and develop and in fact I was very

913
00:48:12,450 --> 00:48:09,130
fortunate to go I went over to Moscow at

914
00:48:14,370 --> 00:48:12,460
the turret you know around the 1990s for

915
00:48:16,500 --> 00:48:14,380
a conference and then I met a lot of

916
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:16,510
thing people who were in the remote

917
00:48:20,730 --> 00:48:19,930
viewing field over there most of for two

918
00:48:23,550 --> 00:48:20,740
weeks

919
00:48:28,770 --> 00:48:23,560
and I've written about it it's all in my

920
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:28,780
book that yeah it was it's the it's the

921
00:48:35,700 --> 00:48:31,090
attitude towards the topic that's

922
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:35,710
different whereas here in the state is

923
00:48:42,990 --> 00:48:38,290
still considered a pseudoscience it's

924
00:48:45,810 --> 00:48:43,000
considered a you know a suspect science

925
00:48:48,020 --> 00:48:45,820
is not scientific at all well as it's

926
00:48:50,180 --> 00:48:48,030
had 14 years of research and development

927
00:48:53,609 --> 00:48:50,190
from Stanford Research Institute

928
00:48:56,250 --> 00:48:53,619
Princeton University a military worked

929
00:48:58,530 --> 00:48:56,260
with it for twenty years and you can't

930
00:49:03,180 --> 00:48:58,540
call something to a pseudoscience that

931
00:49:06,240 --> 00:49:03,190
has that pedigree correct and other

932
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:06,250
countries I'm in there uh-huh sorry oh

933
00:49:12,990 --> 00:49:09,970
no please go ahead Americans are now

934
00:49:15,150 --> 00:49:13,000
training Russian there are Russians

935
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:15,160
coming over young folk who wants to

936
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:17,770
learn remote viewing and Paul Smith and

937
00:49:22,170 --> 00:49:19,930
other trainers are now training Russians

938
00:49:23,510 --> 00:49:22,180
which is interested that's very

939
00:49:30,420 --> 00:49:23,520
interesting

940
00:49:34,050 --> 00:49:30,430
Wow it's it's neat how yeah it adds to

941
00:49:37,950 --> 00:49:34,060
the validity of it's it's something I

942
00:49:40,380 --> 00:49:37,960
believe in I interacted up close in

943
00:49:43,500 --> 00:49:40,390
person will personally thanks to you and

944
00:49:49,370 --> 00:49:43,510
and it affected me very deeply and and

945
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:49,380
just the ability of one's mind really

946
00:49:56,940 --> 00:49:54,010
yeah yeah well you saw firsthand how it

947
00:50:02,099 --> 00:49:56,950
worked we you came into a weekend class

948
00:50:04,050 --> 00:50:02,109
and required with a small team and it's

949
00:50:09,090 --> 00:50:04,060
all for yourself and prove to yourself

950
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:09,100
that mm-hmm

951
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:13,330
it is and it's I almost want to say

952
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:14,890
whether you believe it or not but it's

953
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:16,570
almost better if you don't believe it

954
00:50:22,109 --> 00:50:19,810
because yeah chances are your mind could

955
00:50:24,780 --> 00:50:22,119
be clearer and more empty without any of

956
00:50:29,010 --> 00:50:24,790
that you know yeah messing up the signal

957
00:50:30,870 --> 00:50:29,020
line well I I know that you've got a lot

958
00:50:33,270 --> 00:50:30,880
going on Angela I really wanted to thank

959
00:50:34,330 --> 00:50:33,280
you for coming on and and speaking with

960
00:50:36,100 --> 00:50:34,340
us about

961
00:50:38,220 --> 00:50:36,110
you know these things that are just so

962
00:50:40,870 --> 00:50:38,230
fascinating and how intriguing and

963
00:50:43,150 --> 00:50:40,880
in-depth you're you're involved can you

964
00:50:45,550 --> 00:50:43,160
tell us more about any upcoming projects

965
00:50:48,690 --> 00:50:45,560
where people can purchase your books

966
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:48,700
things of that nature

967
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:51,890
yeah where you can purchase my books on

968
00:50:59,370 --> 00:50:54,770
Amazon under Angela Thompson Smith

969
00:51:02,830 --> 00:50:59,380
Thompson with Abby and I am gradually

970
00:51:05,350 --> 00:51:02,840
republishing all my books because my

971
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:05,360
publisher kind of dropped the ball back

972
00:51:11,050 --> 00:51:08,050
in spring and I had to learn all the

973
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:11,060
software programs to get everything back

974
00:51:16,390 --> 00:51:14,210
up again which I'm almost done so though

975
00:51:17,950 --> 00:51:16,400
everything is up now with new covers and

976
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:17,960
some actually some have new information

977
00:51:26,530 --> 00:51:22,850
in them projects I'm going to be down in

978
00:51:30,670 --> 00:51:26,540
Laughlin in November for poor O'Hara or

979
00:51:35,170 --> 00:51:30,680
the Harrises conference UFO and remote

980
00:51:38,830 --> 00:51:35,180
viewing conference I don't know very bad

981
00:51:41,970 --> 00:51:38,840
it's on it's online you go to Paula

982
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:41,980
Harrison not lost in UFO conference I

983
00:51:47,110 --> 00:51:44,450
don't have the information offhand right

984
00:51:48,940 --> 00:51:47,120
now but it's time I'm going to be there

985
00:51:49,510 --> 00:51:48,950
and I think reference card is going to

986
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:49,520
be there

987
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:53,090
Russ remote viewing I'm going to be

988
00:52:03,010 --> 00:51:57,370
talking giving a talk on remote viewing

989
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:03,020
the military and Industry so I think it

990
00:52:08,140 --> 00:52:05,690
will I've got a lot of material so it's

991
00:52:10,510 --> 00:52:08,150
the show so that sort of the next big

992
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:10,520
conference coming up in November at the

993
00:52:15,610 --> 00:52:12,530
beginning of their benefit that's when I

994
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:15,620
definitely will not miss well thank you

995
00:52:19,570 --> 00:52:17,450
so much Angela I will try to stay in

996
00:52:22,510 --> 00:52:19,580
touch with you and for everybody watch

997
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:22,520
Friday her interview with the History

998
00:52:27,970 --> 00:52:25,130
Channel the unexplained mysteries of the

999
00:52:31,900 --> 00:52:27,980
mind premieres Friday August 30th at

1000
00:52:33,970 --> 00:52:31,910
10:03 p.m. History Channel and this is

1001
00:52:36,220 --> 00:52:33,980
through Prometheus entertainment great

1002
00:52:39,580 --> 00:52:36,230
group of guys check it out thanks for

1003
00:52:42,130 --> 00:52:39,590
all you do it's rigorous how much you

1004
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:42,140
put into this area and it's a

1005
00:52:45,940 --> 00:52:44,090
challenging area so thank you so much

1006
00:52:46,910 --> 00:52:45,950
Angela appreciate all you do and just

1007
00:52:50,270 --> 00:52:46,920
for being a hero

1008
00:52:52,309 --> 00:52:50,280
of the cause in every way well thank you

1009
00:52:52,849 --> 00:52:52,319
for having me on your podcast thanks

1010
00:52:57,349 --> 00:52:52,859
Ryan

1011
00:52:59,839 --> 00:52:57,359
take care buh-bye man as good as it gets

1012
00:53:02,690 --> 00:52:59,849
as good as it gets and I'll tell you

1013
00:53:04,670 --> 00:53:02,700
what on this planet as many years as

1014
00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:04,680
I've been here which isn't that many you

1015
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:08,730
know it's 44 I guess it's a lucky number

1016
00:53:16,700 --> 00:53:12,450
but it's you know hard to come across

1017
00:53:19,789 --> 00:53:16,710
people of that quality caliber and just

1018
00:53:22,549 --> 00:53:19,799
genu genuine good people

1019
00:53:26,870 --> 00:53:22,559
Angela Thompson Smith is one of the

1020
00:53:28,849 --> 00:53:26,880
kindest most amazing Souls I've come

1021
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:28,859
across and I know I'm not the only one

1022
00:53:33,859 --> 00:53:31,170
that says that she is something special

1023
00:53:37,130 --> 00:53:33,869
and she's something special to a lot of

1024
00:53:40,339 --> 00:53:37,140
organizations a lot of individuals and

1025
00:53:42,319 --> 00:53:40,349
historically she has given back to every

1026
00:53:44,510 --> 00:53:42,329
community and institution that she's

1027
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:44,520
been a part of and so please support her

1028
00:53:48,559 --> 00:53:44,970
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1029
00:53:50,839 --> 00:53:48,569
Angela Thompson Smith PhD check out mind

1030
00:53:51,410 --> 00:53:50,849
wise consulting out of Boulder City

1031
00:53:54,620 --> 00:53:51,420
Nevada

1032
00:53:57,470 --> 00:53:54,630
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1033
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1037
00:54:14,329 --> 00:54:10,640
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1038
00:54:15,980 --> 00:54:14,339
barbed wire will disappear the things

1039
00:54:19,099 --> 00:54:15,990
that are holding you back

1040
00:54:20,900 --> 00:54:19,109
consider those gone because once you get

1041
00:54:23,059 --> 00:54:20,910
into remote viewing you realize that the

1042
00:54:26,829 --> 00:54:23,069
minds eye is a lot more powerful vehicle

1043
00:54:29,839 --> 00:54:26,839
than generally accepted by science and

1044
00:54:32,569 --> 00:54:29,849
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1078
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1079
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1083
00:56:06,790 --> 00:56:04,490
amazing researcher that I know of who is

1084
00:56:10,329 --> 00:56:06,800
the first of the first on property at

1085
00:56:12,700 --> 00:56:10,339
the old Sherman ranch the property

1086
00:56:19,930 --> 00:56:12,710
adjacent to our own space wolf research

1087
00:56:21,310 --> 00:56:19,940
only yards away and by yards yeah

1088
00:56:24,099 --> 00:56:21,320
there's a few and that's a good thing

1089
00:56:26,470 --> 00:56:24,109
because the area in between is more or

1090
00:56:28,180 --> 00:56:26,480
less the area where all things have

1091
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:28,190
retreated to or come out of that have

1092
00:56:33,130 --> 00:56:30,490
been considered either dangerous

1093
00:56:36,220 --> 00:56:33,140
paranormal abnormal or from a

1094
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:36,230
cryptozoological sense something to be

1095
00:56:43,970 --> 00:56:41,450
ascertained and reported so lights in

1096
00:56:45,570 --> 00:56:43,980
the sky everywhere bridges everywhere

1097
00:56:47,740 --> 00:56:45,580
[Music]

1098
00:56:49,870 --> 00:56:47,750
there's so much anyway

1099
00:56:52,030 --> 00:56:49,880
to get back on topic that's where we're

1100
00:56:54,700 --> 00:56:52,040
doing the podcast we're gonna have mr.

1101
00:56:56,740 --> 00:56:54,710
Ryan Layton first researcher in the area

1102
00:56:59,050 --> 00:56:56,750
to spend time overnight talking to Terry

1103
00:57:00,940 --> 00:56:59,060
Sherman having a barbecue pop in a

1104
00:57:01,660 --> 00:57:00,950
couple of brewskis checking out the

1105
00:57:03,819 --> 00:57:01,670
property and go

1106
00:57:07,630 --> 00:57:03,829
on the magical mystery tour we're going

1107
00:57:10,059 --> 00:57:07,640
to have him and more right on site just

1108
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:10,069
in the middle of the night when you'd

1109
00:57:17,230 --> 00:57:13,490
expect it to be right in skin-walker

1110
00:57:20,589 --> 00:57:17,240
slash shape-shifter territory and what I

1111
00:57:22,530 --> 00:57:20,599
mean by that is magical Native American

1112
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:22,540
witches or lower thereof and

1113
00:57:26,470 --> 00:57:24,410
shapeshifters whatever you want to call

1114
00:57:28,809 --> 00:57:26,480
them beings of the night entities that

1115
00:57:31,420 --> 00:57:28,819
we are studying things that seem to be

1116
00:57:32,770 --> 00:57:31,430
able to do things that regular creatures

1117
00:57:34,150 --> 00:57:32,780
would not be able to do we're getting

1118
00:57:35,589 --> 00:57:34,160
lights in the sky we're getting all

1119
00:57:37,500 --> 00:57:35,599
kinds of stuff we're getting carcasses

1120
00:57:40,270 --> 00:57:37,510
piling up like there's no tomorrow and

1121
00:57:41,859 --> 00:57:40,280
we are having to pay for that research

1122
00:57:43,930 --> 00:57:41,869
to get these things checked out so

1123
00:57:45,940 --> 00:57:43,940
anyway hit us up donate whatever pick up

1124
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:45,950
a t-shirt and until next time keep your

1125
00:57:57,590 --> 00:57:48,170
eyes to the skies feet on the ground but

1126
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:11,240
[Music]

1127
00:58:24,750 --> 00:58:16,640
blast off blast off color blast off in